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    ONE PIECE Volume 100 is scheduled to release on Fall 2021.

    Between 22th September until 21th December.

    https://twitter.com/WSJ_manga/status/1400351783634063360?s=19

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    Quite the cover too.


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    Three months from volume 99 would have been September 4. They're really drawing these things out, huh? If October is the earliest start of month release window, we might not even get volume 101 this year. I hope that's not the case.

    Also, being from a country that rounds the seasons down to the nearest month, it's absolutely wild to see that autumn starts on the 22nd for Japan. How do you people remember that?

    Anyway, the volume should go to chapter 1014 and "Colour of the Conqueror" or however it was worded is the only thing that really stands out as a title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    Also, being from a country that rounds the seasons down to the nearest month, it's absolutely wild to see that autumn starts on the 22nd for Japan. How do you people remember that?
    It seems they primarily use the astronomical seasons which are based on the solstices and equinoxes, we learned those dates in school

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    The Promotional page for Volume 100, set to release in Fall (Probably on October).



    --- Update From New Post Merge ---

    Detective Conan Volume 100 set to release on Fall 2021 !

    He wants a Dialogue or interview with Eiichiro Oda, so it can happen.. someday..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Coookie View Post
    It seems they primarily use the astronomical seasons which are based on the solstices and equinoxes, we learned those dates in school
    It makes sense it'd stick after being reinforced all through schooling, and it's probably a lot more accurate than the Australian system as well (winter weather was definitely a couple weeks ahead of the official start date this year and most others, for example). It just always surprises me when it pops up.

    I probably sound like an American being all 'oh right you guys use the metric system' right now.

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    An interview between Oda and Aoyama would be sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchInformer View Post
    The Promotional page for Volume 100, set to release in Fall (Probably on October).

    https://i.imgur.com/0M6LNeK.png

    --- Update From New Post Merge ---



    Detective Conan Volume 100 set to release on Fall 2021 !

    He wants a Dialogue or interview with Eiichiro Oda, so it can happen.. someday..


    https://i.imgur.com/YaYLrsd.jpg
    Actually, in light of some people criticizing One Piece for being too long, I wonder how often Detective Conan is brought up, because regardless of length and how Detective Conan has been going on longer than One Piece, I almost never see Detective Conan casually brought up in manga/anime forums and chats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Actually, in light of some people criticizing One Piece for being too long, I wonder how often Detective Conan is brought up, because regardless of length and how Detective Conan has been going on longer than One Piece, I almost never see Detective Conan casually brought up in manga/anime forums and chats.
    I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, read​ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.

    I guess it just never got big enough in the west for people to think about it like they do One Piece. There's not enough investment for the complaints to surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, read​ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.

    I guess it just never got big enough in the west for people to think about it like they do One Piece. There's not enough investment for the complaints to surface.
    From what I understand, Aoyama doesn’t really use arcs, or at least not in a way that continuously builds on the same foundation, and more or less makes things up as he goes along, if not, focuses on whatever is going on in the moment. Not that series which are over 100 volumes long need to have detailed arcs in order to be worth reading, though honestly, I really don’t think many people would be more inclined to read through the entire series if they didn’t find it as fulfilling. Oda at least sets up his series in a way which feels more fulfilling to read through from start to finish, with how often he calls back to previous chapters and builds up towards something bigger in the process.

    Basically, I think more people would better help themselves to ask how fulfilling a series is rather than how long it is, because buying more than 100 volumes and having all the time to read through them all honestly might be asking for a bit much no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    From what I understand, Aoyama doesn’t really use arcs, or at least not in a way that continuously builds on the same foundation, and more or less makes things up as he goes along, if not, focuses on whatever is going on in the moment. Not that series which are over 100 volumes long need to have detailed arcs in order to be worth reading, though honestly, I really don’t think many people would be more inclined to read through the entire series if they didn’t find it as fulfilling. Oda at least sets up his series in a way which feels more fulfilling to read through from start to finish, with how often he calls back to previous chapters and builds up towards something bigger in the process.

    Basically, I think more people would better help themselves to ask how fulfilling a series is rather than how long it is, because buying more than 100 volumes and having all the time to read through them all honestly might be asking for a bit much no matter what.
    I figured Conan wouldn't have a super serialised ongoing plot like One Piece, but my impression of it is that the people behind Conan being turned into a child are a going concern, and Aoyama doesn't circle back to them very often. But that's mostly what I've picked up second and third hand, so I could be way off.

    I definitely agree with the fulfillment point. 100 volumes of mostly case of the week/month doesn't have the same appeal to me as an equally long absurdist fantasy epic where a million previously separate plot threads come together at the end. I love the idea that it's all important, even if I didn't know how or why the first time I read it. That's what makes One Piece and any number of other big fantasy series feel worth the amount of time I spend on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    I haven't read anything beyond the first volume of Conan (and even then, read​ is a stretch), but isn't it even worse than One Piece in terms of prospective length? Like, we can kinda see the path to the finish line after the current arc, but I heard Conan's made next to no progress toward it's central mysteries in a long time.
    The series is all about little mysteries, it doesn't actually worry about the mega plot much but its dropped some clues along the way..

    If the author decides he's done he can easily have Conan discover one more clue and pull it all together and wrap up very quickly when he's ready. It doesn't have a million loose ends like OP does, it has ONE loose end that matters.

    Find the clue that leads to the bad guys base, call the cops, one dramatic finale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    The series is all about little mysteries, it doesn't actually worry about the mega plot much but its dropped some clues along the way..

    If the author decides he's done he can easily have Conan discover one more clue and pull it all together and wrap up very quickly when he's ready. It doesn't have a million loose ends like OP does, it has ONE loose end that matters.

    Find the clue that leads to the bad guys base, call the cops, one dramatic finale.
    That tracks with my impression of it. I'm sure that method has its advantages, like not having to worry about the author getting too old or too bored with the story to deliver a proper ending, given it could be wrapped up any time. Plus, it'd be a hell of a lot easier for a new reader to pick up than One Piece is at this point.

    But for a long form story, I definitely prefer seeing a lot of balls in the air and being able to wonder how they're all going to be brought together by the ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain M View Post
    That tracks with my impression of it. I'm sure that method has its advantages, like not having to worry about the author getting too old or too bored with the story to deliver a proper ending, given it could be wrapped up any time. Plus, it'd be a hell of a lot easier for a new reader to pick up than One Piece is at this point.

    But for a long form story, I definitely prefer seeing a lot of balls in the air and being able to wonder how they're all going to be brought together by the ending.
    Yeah, though it makes me wonder at what point one decides one doesn’t have to bother with more volumes if buying and reading one volume doesn’t bring any more enjoyment in comparison to buying and reading 100 volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricmastro View Post
    Yeah, though it makes me wonder at what point one decides one doesn’t have to bother with more volumes if buying and reading one volume doesn’t bring any more enjoyment in comparison to buying and reading 100 volumes.
    I'm sure the appeal is exactly that it is doing the same thing for hundreds of volumes. There's a comfort food factor in a good formula that's always got a new take coming out every other week. I doubt anyone reading reading it has hopes of it turning into a One Piece kind of thing and try to build elements of every previous case into its endgame. It doesn't appeal to me personally, or inspire me much to make the time investment it would take to get up to date, but I can see why it'd develop enough of a fanbase to last so long.

    If nothing else, Aoyama was a pretty fantastic visual storyteller in the handful of chapters I saw. You don't need to read any of the dialogue to have a strong impression of who the main characters are and how they interact with each other. The personality is all right there in the art. Oda's got a pretty similar talent in that area, so I can see Aoyama would be a fan (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was mutual).

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    I think Detective Conan is ideal for newcomers, because you can truly jump into the series whenever you want and you should be ok, but not so great for long time fans because it just basically stops developing its main plot and the relationships between the characters from a certain point onwards, and all the weekly cases start getting really repetitive. So it just becomes a bit of a bore if you really want to read all the volumes and its very enticing to just specifically check out the storylines that actually advance the main plot.

    One Piece to me is the exact opposite. While you can theoretically jump in at any point too, the series is simply most rewarding if you have read it at all. Pretty much every arc brings something tto the table, be it iconic secondary characters, memorable dramatic or funny moments or badass action scenes, so you are missing out in some way or other if you skip any arc. That obviously makes it pretty daunting for new readers, but it's also much more effective and succesful at creating long-term passionate and loyal fans, I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddler View Post
    I think Detective Conan is ideal for newcomers, because you can truly jump into the series whenever you want and you should be ok, but not so great for long time fans because it just basically stops developing its main plot and the relationships between the characters from a certain point onwards, and all the weekly cases start getting really repetitive. So it just becomes a bit of a bore if you really want to read all the volumes and its very enticing to just specifically check out the storylines that actually advance the main plot.

    One Piece to me is the exact opposite. While you can theoretically jump in at any point too, the series is simply most rewarding if you have read it at all. Pretty much every arc brings something tto the table, be it iconic secondary characters, memorable dramatic or funny moments or badass action scenes, so you are missing out in some way or other if you skip any arc. That obviously makes it pretty daunting for new readers, but it's also much more effective and succesful at creating long-term passionate and loyal fans, I would think.
    Second paragraph absolutely nails what I love about One Piece. The continuity is what makes it work.

    My favourite readthrough of the series wasn't the first one but the second one, when I was catching all kinds of connections and foreshadowing that went way over my head the first time around.

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    Conan's about a bishonen turned Pup Named Scooby Doo going full Sherlock Holmes solving murder mysteries, I would imagine girls alone will fund that forever. That mountain villa episode that aired on adult swim back in the day messed me up.
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    Detective Conan is your typical weekly procedural like NCIS etc. Build to to on forever and can be wrapped up at any point. I was a big fan back in my teen days, but kinda fell off of it. Would like to read all of it, but something tells me with so many volumes Aoyama can‘t possibly do anything else than recycling similar murder mysteries just with different characters all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajinArekkusu View Post
    Detective Conan is your typical weekly procedural like NCIS etc. Build to to on forever and can be wrapped up at any point. I was a big fan back in my teen days, but kinda fell off of it. Would like to read all of it, but something tells me with so many volumes Aoyama can‘t possibly do anything else than recycling similar murder mysteries just with different characters all the time.
    Same here, kinda hoped to see an ending or at least progression with the main plot, but i guess i have to wait way longer for it than i hoped.
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